Activity

From 2017-03-06 to 2017-04-04

2017-04-04

14:49 Development initiative #547: NordDRG logic versions combined to one table.
Finnish National DRG-center 2017-4-4
The combination of all national versions in one table is very good and useful...
Kristiina Kahur
12:34 Development initiative #547: NordDRG logic versions combined to one table.
This developement of common is very good. It simplify when when creating technical Changes for cases and also makes i... Ralph Dahlgren
14:31 Case #550 (Rejected): Coding of Candida oesophagitis
Initiated: 2017-04-04
Initiator: Martti Virtanen: Nordic Casemix Centre
Responsible at National organization: Martt...
Martti Virtanen
11:07 Case #528 (Rejected): Delayed suture or wound revision with delayed suture
2017-03-13 Expert group
Problem in translation. Unclear what is needed. Case can be reactivated if necessary.
Martti Virtanen
11:03 Case #542: Missing plus signs for ICD in Drglogic
Expert group 2017-03-13
The rules ORD 104D040300, 405D023000 and 405D023010 are only valid for Swe-version.
The ru...
Martti Virtanen

2017-03-31

08:54 Case #512: New DRG for Transurethral incision of prostate, TUIP
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-31
Given the big variance in coding of prostate biopsy in Finnish hospitals, we...
Kristiina Kahur

2017-03-29

16:37 Case #512: New DRG for Transurethral incision of prostate, TUIP
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-29
We would like to make the changes in Finnish 2018 version according to the o...
Kristiina Kahur
16:34 Case #515: DRG 802O Non-extensive procedure of eye, short therapy– separating the cases puncture ...
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-29
We have checked the Swedish and Norwegian model from cost point of view.
T...
Kristiina Kahur
16:23 Case #506: New DRG in MDC22 for outpatient cases with Dressing of major burn
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-29
It was decided in Riga meeting that QXD00 will be created a new NCSP+ code a...
Kristiina Kahur
16:19 Case #504: Merging DRG 472O Extensive burns with o. r. procedure, short therapy and DRG 459O Non-...
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-29
We checked whether there are cases with skin transplantation in DRG 459O. Th...
Kristiina Kahur
15:44 Case #482: Prostate biopsy
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-29
After checking the case thoroughly we will not implement this change in Finn...
Kristiina Kahur
15:29 Case #366: Revision of properties of diagnoses complicating the cesarean section
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-29
Thanks Mats for technical changes. They have been modified (Swedish subcodes...
Kristiina Kahur
14:54 Case #502: DRG 316 Kidney failure – splitting into two groups– with and without cc and dialysis
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-29
Based on the comments made by Mats and Martti and discussion during the Expe...
Kristiina Kahur

2017-03-28

17:23 Case #408: Respiratory failure in newborns
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-28*
If it can be of any help, I attach technical changes (TC #408_C604.xlsx) ac...
Mats Fernström
17:17 Case #391: Problem with shoulder and hip DRG in DRGlogic
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-28*
If it can be of any help, I attach technical changes (TC #391_C458.xlsx) ac...
Mats Fernström
17:12 Case #377: Gallbladder codes complicate each other
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-28*
If it can be of any help, I attach technical changes (TC #377_C414.xlsx) ac...
Mats Fernström
17:08 Case #366: Revision of properties of diagnoses complicating the cesarean section
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-28*
If it can be of any help, I attach technical changes (TC #366_C593.xlsx) ac...
Mats Fernström
15:07 Case #493: Dilatation and curettage of cervix uteri is not performed without anesthesia
+Veronika Stemme, Sweden:+
Since the change should only be implemented for Sweden and Norway, we have made new techn...
Veronika Stemme
13:51 Case #529: Laryngectomy always include tracheostomy
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-28
If I got it correct, we want a change which allows the cases with DQB30 and ...
Kristiina Kahur
13:44 Development initiative #549 (Active): Psychiatry
Follow-up Project what happends in member countries in psychiatry DRG work Maisa Lukander
09:03 Case #522 (Rejected): cf. 2017 changes FNE12B and FNE22B
2017-03-13 Expert group
No change recommended.
Martti Virtanen

2017-03-27

16:33 Case #529: Laryngectomy always include tracheostomy
2017-03-27 Martti Virtanen
The Swedish proposal combines groups 483M&N/W01A&E 'Tracheostomy except for face, mouth &...
Martti Virtanen
14:13 Case #529: Laryngectomy always include tracheostomy
2017-03-13 Expert group
Waiting for further correction. Will be done for NordDRG 2017 atleast in SWE.
Martti Virtanen
13:38 Case #544: Normal newborn, birth weight over 2500 g, with other significant problem
2017-03-13 Expert group
The problem is, that Norway, registrating all newborns and billing child and maternal care s...
Martti Virtanen
11:08 Case #546 (Rejected): Therapeutic venesection
2017-03-13 Expert group
NOR wants to postpone the case. It will be closed now, NOR can reactivate the case any time...
Martti Virtanen

2017-03-22

16:16 Case #529: Laryngectomy always include tracheostomy
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-22*
We do not understand Martti´s comment. We actually want +all+ cases with DQ...
Mats Fernström

2017-03-20

11:46 Case #495: Comparison of CC exclusions in SWE versions
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Could you please send this mail to all of us in the expertgroup
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2017-03-16

10:56 Questions and answers #519: Endovascular coiling of cerebral arteries
+Veronika Stemme, Sweden:+
The Swedish data are translated to English, please see file Swedish data NCC#519(2)
Veronika Stemme

2017-03-13

16:17 Case #473 (Accepted): Cases coded with the procedure AAG50 (Intracranial stereotactic radiosurger...
Martti Virtanen

2017-03-12

10:16 Case #548: Correcting the DGCAT of Z453, Z461 and Z974
Norway support the change, as we have the same error in our Version. Kristin Dahlen

2017-03-11

20:49 Case #480: Desensitization to allergens
2017-03-10 Martti Virtanen
Norway has made the change in the national version.
However, since the case affects oth...
Martti Virtanen
10:42 Case #544: Normal newborn, birth weight over 2500 g, with other significant problem
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-11*
To get a more ”clean” analysis we now included only the cases with P05 in D...
Mats Fernström

2017-03-10

15:41 Case #512: New DRG for Transurethral incision of prostate, TUIP
The groups will be too small according to what we observe in the Norwegian data as well, so we do not support the sug... Kristin Dahlen
09:32 Case #512: New DRG for Transurethral incision of prostate, TUIP
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-10
As mentioned in the original suggestion, provision of correct technical chan...
Kristiina Kahur
14:45 Case #544: Normal newborn, birth weight over 2500 g, with other significant problem
According to the cost data analyses done by Finland, there seems to be few (e,g, none) of the cases in the material a... Kristin Dahlen
08:15 Case #544: Normal newborn, birth weight over 2500 g, with other significant problem
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-10
In Finnish data the cost of DRG 391 (Normal newborn) is 2896 EUR.
The cases...
Kristiina Kahur
14:44 Case #506: New DRG in MDC22 for outpatient cases with Dressing of major burn
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-10
This proposal is based on cost analysis of Finnish data. Code QXD00/QXSD00 ...
Kristiina Kahur
12:43 Case #548 (Accepted): Correcting the DGCAT of Z453, Z461 and Z974
*Problem*
There is an obvious error in Finnish grouper concerning the dental care and DRG 580O Mouth problem, short ...
Kristiina Kahur
10:50 Case #494: Cardiac arrest, ICD-codes I46.0 and I46.9
+Veronika Stemme, Sweden+:
In Sweden the ICD-10-code I46.0, 'Cardiac arrest with successful resuscitation' but not I...
Veronika Stemme

2017-03-09

17:23 Case #544: Normal newborn, birth weight over 2500 g, with other significant problem
According to the Swedish data presented, we wonder if the cases *only* have the mentioned codes or if there are any o... Kristin Dahlen
13:00 Case #544: Normal newborn, birth weight over 2500 g, with other significant problem
+Veronika Stemme, Sweden+:
Sweden does not want this change since, in Swedish KPP, the mean costs for the mentioned ...
Veronika Stemme
17:18 Case #494: Cardiac arrest, ICD-codes I46.0 and I46.9
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-9
Both codes, I46.0 and I46.9 have exactly the same properties in Finnish group...
Kristiina Kahur
17:13 Case #510: Merging DRGs 038 Primary iris procedures and DRG 042 Intraocular procedures except ret...
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-09*
If the changes suggested in case #516 and #517 are implemented, the remaini...
Mats Fernström
16:39 Case #535: Central Venous catheters
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-09*
We do not support the suggestion to remove the properties. The correspondin...
Mats Fernström
16:06 Case #516: Rearranging the cases in DRG 038O Primary iris procedures, short therapy and 042O Intr...
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-9
Just a quick comment about the involvement of specialtists in grouper develop...
Kristiina Kahur
15:55 Case #516: Rearranging the cases in DRG 038O Primary iris procedures, short therapy and 042O Intr...
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-09* (NPK ID C700)
We have already supported the creation of group 3 (Transplant...
Mats Fernström
14:58 Case #514: DRG 041O Other interventions for problems in eye region, short therapy– splitting into...
We agree with Sweden in the principal view that we should be cautious splitting DRGs into groups with and without ane... Anja Fagervold
09:08 Case #514: DRG 041O Other interventions for problems in eye region, short therapy– splitting into...
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
Sweden does not have codes for parabulbar or sub-tenon anaesthesia. The situation would b...
Martti Virtanen
14:54 Case #498: Coronary angio with measurement of intra-arterial pressure
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-9
Code AF037/FNDC1A/FN1AC has been coded ca 12000 times in 2015, 13 times the c...
Kristiina Kahur
11:43 Case #498: Coronary angio with measurement of intra-arterial pressure
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
I will correct the mapping of AF050.
The proposal has clear effets on Finish and Norweg...
Martti Virtanen
14:13 Case #503: DRG 315 Other kidney and urinary tract o. r. procedures– splitting into different groups
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden, 2017-03-09*
As requested by Martti I include our cost data for DRG M29 that correspond...
Mats Fernström
11:07 Case #503: DRG 315 Other kidney and urinary tract o. r. procedures– splitting into different groups
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
Can Sweden report the result of the splitting by non-CC/CC/MCC which is basicly a compeat...
Martti Virtanen
13:59 Case #454: Merge of DRGs 482 and 482O
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
Technical changes according to proposal from Mats
Martti Virtanen
13:42 Case #525: K50.8 Crohns disease (Crohns disease in both small and large disease)
We support the modification proposed by Sweden. Kristin Dahlen
13:28 Case #408: Respiratory failure in newborns
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
The comment from Norway takes up an importan detail, not directly related to this case.
...
Martti Virtanen
13:23 Case #538: Percutaneous occlusion of a. lienalis
+Veronika Stemme+:
Sweden has the same problem, but we do not have DRG 392 'Operation of spleen..’. Addition of proc...
Veronika Stemme
13:06 Case #500: Complementary dx codes that may not be used as main diagnos
*2017-03-09 Susan Berggren NPK, Sweden*
Look at our suggestion 2
Anonymous
11:29 Case #500: Complementary dx codes that may not be used as main diagnos
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
It is not possible to have a different diagnosis category for a code mapped together with...
Martti Virtanen
12:09 Case #511: Merging DRGs 036A Other retinal procedures and DRG 036B Extensive procedure for retina...
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-9
Technical changes are updated and added to the proposal.
It might be that te...
Kristiina Kahur
09:37 Case #511: Merging DRGs 036A Other retinal procedures and DRG 036B Extensive procedure for retina...
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
The technical changes lacks the procedure property changes. The codes without 02S02 but w...
Martti Virtanen
12:08 Task #487 (Closed): Expert Group Meeting
Martti Virtanen
11:50 Case #505: DRG 458 Non-extensive burns with skin graft– splitting into two groups– with and witho...
We agree with Sweden in the principle of not splitting DRGs into groups "with" and "without" anesthesia. Also in Norw... Anja Fagervold
11:19 Case #502: DRG 316 Kidney failure – splitting into two groups– with and without cc and dialysis
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
Both Finland and Sweden seem to have found the same very expensive group: Complicated pat...
Martti Virtanen
11:17 Case #520: Hypothermic intraperitoneal chemotherapy (HIPEC CRS) in colorectal cancer, pseudomyxom...
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-9
The cost of the cases with JFE00 Transplantation of small intestine ranges be...
Kristiina Kahur
10:33 Case #520: Hypothermic intraperitoneal chemotherapy (HIPEC CRS) in colorectal cancer, pseudomyxom...
+Veronika Stemme,Sweden+:
Very few cases with these procedure codes in Sweden. In KPP 2015 no cases with DJ013’Tunnt...
Veronika Stemme
08:05 Case #520: Hypothermic intraperitoneal chemotherapy (HIPEC CRS) in colorectal cancer, pseudomyxom...
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
The number of cases is too low for a new group and the cases do not fit in any other grou...
Martti Virtanen
10:28 Case #506: New DRG in MDC22 for outpatient cases with Dressing of major burn
2017-03-09 Marti Virtanen
Sweden does not have any code corresponding to QXSD00 but it has the other codes in the Qx...
Martti Virtanen
09:21 Case #512: New DRG for Transurethral incision of prostate, TUIP
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
Technical changes document would be usefull.
The difference between Sweden and Finland ...
Martti Virtanen
09:11 Questions and answers #513: Possible change of the PROCPROP of KGV30 and KGV40 (implementation or...
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
No proposal, no case. Question is relevant.
Martti Virtanen
08:44 Case #515: DRG 802O Non-extensive procedure of eye, short therapy– separating the cases puncture ...
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
3 different models int the same area!
The Swedish model is actually fairly close the Fin...
Martti Virtanen

2017-03-08

19:07 Case #459: Splenectomy, short therapy
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-8
The number of cases of 393O has remain on the same level in 2015 as in previo...
Kristiina Kahur
18:21 Case #459: Splenectomy, short therapy
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-08* (NPK ID C638)
The number of cases in DRG R01O/393O in KPP for 2015 has incr...
Mats Fernström
18:38 Case #517: New DRG in MDC2 for transplantation of cornea (short therapy)
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-8
There is no use of code CGG35 in Finnish data, thus no cost data. From clinic...
Kristiina Kahur
17:36 Case #517: New DRG in MDC2 for transplantation of cornea (short therapy)
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-08* (NPK ID C699)
We could not use cost data from 2015 for the analysis of this...
Mats Fernström
18:29 Case #470: Malignant melanoma of eyelid
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-8
Currently we do not have the tool to simulate the analysis done by Sweden, th...
Kristiina Kahur
17:09 Case #470: Malignant melanoma of eyelid
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2017-03-08* (NPK ID C637)
That the diagnosis codes for melanoma of the eyelid are group...
Mats Fernström
17:27 Case #522: cf. 2017 changes FNE12B and FNE22B
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
FNE12B and FNE22B are linked to FNSG12 'Percutaneous transluminal embolectomy of coronary...
Martti Virtanen
17:21 Case #523: cf. 2017 changes "Annen bildeveiledet"
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
This is not about what radiological method is done but about the unspecified intervention...
Martti Virtanen
17:10 Case #524: cf. 2017 changes, diagnostic radiology
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
I see two possbile solutions to this problem.
1) Norway removes the codes starting wit...
Martti Virtanen
16:53 Case #526 (Rejected): K66.2 Retroperitoneal fibrosis
2017-03-08
Withdrawn by Norway
Martti Virtanen
14:22 Case #526: K66.2 Retroperitoneal fibrosis
We support the recommended solution in #488 and withdraw this case. Anja Fagervold
16:28 Case #533 (Active): Problems with "missing values" in the NordDRG system
Martti Virtanen
16:26 Case #533 (Rejected): Problems with "missing values" in the NordDRG system
Error Martti Virtanen
16:23 Case #527: Plastic surgery after excessive weight loss (incl post bariatric surgery)
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
DRG 288O 'Gastrointestinal procedure for obesity, short therapy' or 288A 'Gastroinstestin...
Martti Virtanen
16:11 Case #532: ENA Incision in palate
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-8
In Finland code EHA00 has been used only once (cost of the case 2694 EUR) and...
Kristiina Kahur
15:57 Case #528: Delayed suture or wound revision with delayed suture
*+Veronika Stemme, Sweden*:+
The codes do exist in Sweden except for QXG30 .The cases in Sweden are grouped like thi...
Veronika Stemme
15:53 Case #528: Delayed suture or wound revision with delayed suture
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
QxSG30 is 'Delayed skin closure of surgical wound..' and GxSB05 'Revision of wound of ski...
Martti Virtanen
12:58 Case #529: Laryngectomy always include tracheostomy
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
This proposal resullts in changes that obviously are not wished by the proposal makers. R...
Martti Virtanen
12:41 Case #531: XS008 (Conference about patient) to DRG for Team-visit
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
This is a mapping problem that probably has been discussed earlier.
Howver, the change d...
Martti Virtanen
12:33 Case #535: Central Venous catheters
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
Please construct the technical changes even for this case.
The change can probably be m...
Martti Virtanen
12:29 Case #536: «Reconstruction-total replacements» procedures
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
This is a mapping issue. The Norwegian codes are very specific and do not exist in other ...
Martti Virtanen
12:17 Case #539: Diastasis recti
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
I support the change.
An intresting feature is that 'Gastroschisis' is a specific conge...
Martti Virtanen
12:04 Case #540: Procedures for ingrown nails
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
The property 09S10 is a new one and does not affect any version if not the logic change i...
Martti Virtanen
11:52 Case #541: Combined groin hernia operations
2017-06-08 Martti Virtanen
The rules at issue have been reorderd at some point because 06S09 is before 06S08.
Ther...
Martti Virtanen
11:45 Case #520: Hypothermic intraperitoneal chemotherapy (HIPEC CRS) in colorectal cancer, pseudomyxom...
+Veronika Stemme, Sweden+:
There are few cases with JAQ10 also in Sweden, 10 cases in 2015 with average cost 311 347...
Veronika Stemme
11:33 Case #543: Dupuytren’s contracture treated with the procedure NDM06 Percutaneous needle fasciotom...
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
Minor correction to technical changes.
Martti Virtanen
11:22 Case #546: Therapeutic venesection
2017-06-08 Martti Virtanen
This case seems to affect the Norwegian version only. Technically it should not be a maj...
Martti Virtanen
11:16 Development initiative #547 (Active): NordDRG logic versions combined to one table.
As a preparation to the new NDMS developing process we have now changed the technical arrangement of NordDRG logic de... Martti Virtanen
10:46 Development initiative #545: Requests for development of the NordDRG grouper
2017-03-08 Martti Virtanen
These are interesting ideas, that may be taken to the future NDMS system.
We are curr...
Martti Virtanen
10:30 NDRGchanges_report_base.xlsx
Martti Virtanen
10:07 NDRG_technical_changes_file_base.xltx
Martti Virtanen
10:07 NDRG_technical_changes_file_base.xlsx
Martti Virtanen
10:06 NordDRG_transport_file_base.xltx
Martti Virtanen
10:05 NordDRG_transport_file_base.xlsx
Martti Virtanen

2017-03-07

16:15 Case #500: Complementary dx codes that may not be used as main diagnos
We do not support this change, as all these codes might be used as main diagnosis in Norway.
Reprinted from the No...
Kristin Dahlen
15:04 Questions and answers #519: Endovascular coiling of cerebral arteries
+Veronika Stemme, Sweden+:
In Sweden the procedure codes AAL00 (NCSP AAXC20) ‘Endovascular occlusion due to intracra...
Veronika Stemme
13:41 Case #521: Islet cell transplantation
+*Veronika Stemme, Sweden*+:
There are only few cases also in Sweden; in 2015 13 cases with JLE20 and no cases with ...
Veronika Stemme

2017-03-06

17:54 Case #499: Congenital disorders of muscle tone (P94) in children >1 year
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-6
52% of patients with main dx P94.1 or P94.2 are more than 1 year old and the ...
Kristiina Kahur
17:00 Case #496: Reintroduction of DRG Z73 ‘Patient’s gender is missing’
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-5
We support the reintroduction of DRGs 470G and 470V.
Kristiina Kahur
16:49 Case #482: Prostate biopsy
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-6
It is not clear how the change has been implemented in NOR version without an...
Kristiina Kahur
15:03 Case #482: Prostate biopsy
This change is already implemented in the Norwegian 2017 version. Anja Fagervold
16:35 Case #454: Merge of DRGs 482 and 482O
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-6
Thanks providing this alternative solution. The Finnish cost data would suppo...
Kristiina Kahur
15:52 Case #515: DRG 802O Non-extensive procedure of eye, short therapy– separating the cases puncture ...
In the Norwegian version there are already a split of DRG 802O into a
DRG 802P Treatment of AMD or macular edema wi...
Kristin Dahlen
15:46 Case #521: Islet cell transplantation
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-6
According to Finnish data - DRG 191A Transplantation of pancreas with or wit...
Kristiina Kahur
13:25 Case #521: Islet cell transplantation
2017-03-06 Martti Virtanen
There is a DRG for pancreas transplantation. What is the resource use of that DRG? Could ...
Martti Virtanen
15:32 Case #495: Comparison of CC exclusions in SWE versions
Finnish National DRG-centre 2017-3-6
We agree to revise the CC-exclusion list and bring the clarity to Common and ...
Kristiina Kahur
11:31 Case #495: Comparison of CC exclusions in SWE versions
2017-03-06 Martti Virtanen
This is a very large case - The technical report from Mats has over 13'000 rows.
After ...
Martti Virtanen
15:26 Case #507: New DRG in MDC12 for outpatient stereotactic radiotherapy or demanding isotope therapy...
In Norway we have already implemented a split for this cases.
DRG 852N Brachyterapy for prostate cancer (covers both...
Kristin Dahlen
14:59 Case #481: Merging DRG 806S Mindre invasive gastrointestinal biopsy and 807P Gastrointestinal bio...
This change is already implemented in the Norwegian 2017 version. Anja Fagervold
14:58 Case #480: Desensitization to allergens
This change is already implemented in the Norwegian 2017 version. Anja Fagervold
14:57 Case #479: Delete DRG 908R Ortopedisk diagnostisk ultralyd
This change is already implemented in the Norwegian 2017 version. Anja Fagervold
13:04 Case #518: Clinical examination requiring general anesthesia
2017-03-06 Martti Virtanen
Case affecting currently only Sweden.
Technical changes in the new format attached.
Martti Virtanen
 

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