Activity

From 2018-02-17 to 2018-03-18

2018-03-13

11:43 Case #503: DRG 315 Other kidney and urinary tract o. r. procedures– splitting into different groups
2018-03-13 Martti Virtanen
One more correction.
Interventions with 11S15 are not allways OR=1 and therefore the ana...
Martti Virtanen

2018-03-12

10:17 Case #561: Postoperative control of malignant melanoma
2018-03-12 Martti Virtanen
This is typing error, corrected now.
Martti Virtanen
10:09 Case #540: Procedures for ingrown nails
2018-03-12 Martti Virtanen
Mats has right- there is a larger number of interventions with 09S07 without OR=1. I thin...
Martti Virtanen

2018-03-09

15:53 Case #533: Problems with "missing values" in the NordDRG system
2018-03-09 Martti Virtanen
The duration of outpatients in Sweden and Norway should be 0 according to previous agreem...
Martti Virtanen
14:59 Case #576 (Rejected): Merge of DRG 292 and DRG 293
2017-03-09 Martti Virtanen
Rejected because of withrawal
Martti Virtanen
11:02 Case #576: Merge of DRG 292 and DRG 293
We withdraw the case. Anja Fagervold
14:56 Case #459: Splenectomy, short therapy
2018-03-09 Martti Virtanen
Sweden and Finland (at least) seem to agree that outpatien splenectomy is not possible. T...
Martti Virtanen
13:26 Case #459: Splenectomy, short therapy
Finnish National DRG-Centre 9-3-2018
The solution Sweden is providing seems fine for us when it comes to the dele...
Kristiina Kahur
11:00 Case #588: DQB10/DQSB10 ‘Endoscopic excision of lesion of larynx’ must have OR 1
Norway support this change. Anja Fagervold

2018-03-08

17:38 Case #533: Problems with "missing values" in the NordDRG system
*Mats Fernström, NPK Sweden 2018-03-08* (NPK ID C692)
I didn’t know that <0 means both negative and missing values. ...
Mats Fernström
13:17 Case #565: Change DGCAT för ICD-codes G94- and some G93-codes
_Veronika Stemme, NPK, Sweden_
We agree with Marttis suggestion; DgCat 01M99 ‘Other disorders of the nervous system’...
Veronika Stemme
12:50 Case #540: Procedures for ingrown nails
*Mats Fernström, NPK Sweden 2018-03-08*
I appreciate Martti's desire to bring order to the codes with 09S07 and 09S0...
Mats Fernström
11:08 Case #561: Postoperative control of malignant melanoma
_Veronika Stemme, NPK, Sweden_
We accept Marttis solution with exchanges of DgCat:s for the mentioned diagnosis, but...
Veronika Stemme

2018-03-07

18:19 Case #593 (Rejected): New groups for audiology
2018-03-07 Martti Virtanen
Rejected because of withdrawal.
Martti Virtanen
18:11 Case #592: Error correction of NordDRG SWE 2018
2018-03-07 Martti Virtanen
This seems to be straight forward corrections.
I just ordert the Techincal changes to e...
Martti Virtanen
18:05 Case #591: Symphatectomy for flushing and hyperhidrosis
2018-03-07 Martti Virtanen
If I understand correctly the point of the proposal is that if flushing (or hyperhidros...
Martti Virtanen
15:51 Case #590: Prefabricated orthosis and the handmade orthosis, DRG 808Y and 908O
2018-03-07 Martti Virtanen
This proposal only affects Nor and Ice versions since the other version do not use the ...
Martti Virtanen
14:55 Case #568: Division of DRG 359O 'Uterine and adnexal procedures for non-malignancy, short therapy...
Finnish National DRG-Centre 7-3-2018
We carried out additional analysis based on the feedback to the case #573 and...
Kristiina Kahur
14:46 Case #589: Rules to determine the side of the lens procedure
2018-03-07 Martti Virtanen
This is true. WHO is suggesting a new model for ICD-11 dx coding where a cloud of several...
Martti Virtanen
14:37 Case #589: Rules to determine the side of the lens procedure
We have faced the same problem also in Norway. For a permanent solution to the problem we are awaiting the possibilit... Kristin Dahlen
14:35 Case #588: DQB10/DQSB10 ‘Endoscopic excision of lesion of larynx’ must have OR 1
2018-03-07 Martti Virtanen
This is a quite small change but in principal everybody needs to agree on the change, bec...
Martti Virtanen
14:16 Case #586: Revision of DRG X70O/907V Intravascular drug delivery, short therapy
_Veronika Stemme, NPK, Sweden_
The questions about MDC:s 12, 13 and 98 certainly needs further discussion. The case ...
Veronika Stemme
14:02 Case #567: MDC-specific DRG-groups for nurse visits
_Veronika Stemme, NPK, Sweden._
For clarity reasons I reprint Marttis questions with our answers after each question...
Veronika Stemme

2018-03-06

18:05 Case #590: Prefabricated orthosis and the handmade orthosis, DRG 808Y and 908O
Finnish National DRG-Centre 6-3-2018
According to NCSP+ mapping the respective codes in Finland are TND31 and TND3...
Kristiina Kahur
16:33 Case #593: New groups for audiology
Finnish National DRG-Centre 6-3-2018
We withdraw the case.
Kristiina Kahur
16:27 Case #434: Candida infections as complicating dx
2018-03-06 Ralph Dahlgren
Here I enclose an Excell-File for this case containing the Swedish Cost Data (KPP 2016).
...
Ralph Dahlgren
15:20 Case #580: Vagus nerve stimulation for depression
2018-03-06 Martti Virtanen
Case #587 clearly improves case #580. It makes possible to group only vagus stimulation...
Martti Virtanen
15:19 Case #587: Split of DRG A20N (570) ‘Insertion or replacement of nervous system central stimulatio...
2018-03-06 Martti Virtanen
This case clearly improves case #580.
Since this is really a combined case, the tec...
Martti Virtanen
14:29 Case #585: DRG hierarchy change for pacemaker intervetions and percutanoeus cardiovascular proced...
2018-03-06 Martti Virtanen
This proposal is fairly simple. I have mainly rewritten the technical changes to include ...
Martti Virtanen
13:53 Case #584: Division of DRG's 209G and 209F '
2018-03-06 Martti Virtanen
This case is closely related to case #583 and therefore the technical changes are combine...
Martti Virtanen
12:41 Case #583: Division of DRG 209C 'Secondary prosthetic replacement in hip joint'
2018-03-06 Martti Virtanen
This case is closely related to case #584 and therefore the technical changes are combine...
Martti Virtanen
09:44 Case #591: Symphatectomy for flushing and hyperhidrosis
2018-03-06 Ralph Dahlgren
Sweden would like to see some technical changes to be able to correct evaluate the suggest...
Ralph Dahlgren

2018-03-05

19:22 Case #582: Psychiatry DRG's subgroupings, (Swedish) primary care, outpatients, inpatients
2018-03-05 Martti Virtanen
This proposal had some obvious errors that would distort the structure of the NordDRG gro...
Martti Virtanen
15:38 Case #581: Simplified logic for Swedish primary care
2018-03-05 Martti Virtanen
This proposal is obviously only for Swe. It is also mostly reasonable.
I cannot check...
Martti Virtanen
15:06 Case #579 (Rejected): Vagus nerve stimulation for depression
Martti Virtanen
15:06 Case #579: Vagus nerve stimulation for depression
2018-03-05 Martti Virtanen
This case i substituted by Case #580
Martti Virtanen
15:01 Case #580: Vagus nerve stimulation for depression
2018-03-05 Martti Virtanen
I have a difficulty with the proposed change.
The DRG's 424O and 424N 'O. r. procedure ...
Martti Virtanen
14:01 Case #578: Procpr 99V35 to DRG G99 and E99
2018-03-05 Martti Virtanen
Agree. Obviously there is no need to change neither ID nor ORD values.
Martti Virtanen
13:56 Case #577: Catheter-based valve implantation
2018-03-05 Martti Virtanen
The proposal is very intresting and deals with a problem that is somewhat hidden in NCSP+...
Martti Virtanen

2018-03-02

13:16 Case #570: Revision of properties of procedure codes AEA24/AESA24 and AEA27/AESA27
2018-03-02 Ralph Dahlgren
Sweden cannot see any problem with adding these properties to the suggested two codes.
B...
Ralph Dahlgren

2018-03-01

15:02 Case #576: Merge of DRG 292 and DRG 293
2018-03-01 Martti Virtanen
There seems to be no agreement for this change. However, if Norway wishes to do the chang...
Martti Virtanen
14:39 Case #575: NDF20/ NDSF12 'Fixation of fragment of surface of joint of wrist or hand; percutaneous...
2018-03-01 Martti Virtanen
The code NDSF12 'Fixation of fragment of surface of joint of wrist or hand; percutaneous'...
Martti Virtanen
13:49 Case #574: Polyneuropathy in diseases classified elsewhere
2018-02-20 Martti Virtanen
This is a good opportunity to go trough the grouping model and logic in NordDRG, because ...
Martti Virtanen
12:44 Case #584: Division of DRG's 209G and 209F '
2018-03-01 Ralph Dahlgren
When it comes to the first Norwegian problem to split ankle and knee replacement there are...
Ralph Dahlgren
12:21 Case #583: Division of DRG 209C 'Secondary prosthetic replacement in hip joint'
2018-03-01 Ralph Dahlgren
Sweden has grouped the KPP for Sweden with the Norwegian TC and the result did not change ...
Ralph Dahlgren

2018-02-28

18:38 Case #573: Procedures on embryo and ICSI
2018-02-28 Martti Virtanen
This case is closely related to case #568 abd therefore I have combined the technical cha...
Martti Virtanen
18:33 Case #568: Division of DRG 359O 'Uterine and adnexal procedures for non-malignancy, short therapy...
2018-02-28 Martti Virtanen
Sweden's comments are obviously valid.
The case #573 is so closely related to this case...
Martti Virtanen
17:49 Case #568: Division of DRG 359O 'Uterine and adnexal procedures for non-malignancy, short therapy...
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2018-02-28* (NPK ID C666)
DRG 359O corresponds to the Swedish DRG O15O ’Operationer på ...
Mats Fernström
17:41 Case #572: Revision the grouping rules of DRG 041Q
2018-02-28 Martti Virtanen
The eye anaesthaesia rule exists only in NordDRG Fin and the change will not affect other...
Martti Virtanen
17:20 Case #571: Removing PROCPR 90D91 form procedure code ZX080/ZXOX20
2018-02-28 Martti Virtanen
Danish, Finish, Icelandic and Latvian CSP's have codes linked to ZXOX20.
However, 90D...
Martti Virtanen
17:11 Case #570: Revision of properties of procedure codes AEA24/AESA24 and AEA27/AESA27
2018-02-28 Martti Virtanen
See case #569
Martti Virtanen
15:54 Case #569: Correction of the properties ABD32 Implantation of temporary spinal stimulation device
2018-02-28 Martti Virtanen
There is a structural problem or indeed an error in the NCSP structure. There are two gro...
Martti Virtanen
14:41 Case #590: Prefabricated orthosis and the handmade orthosis, DRG 808Y and 908O
2018-02-28 Ralph Dahlgren
Norway are so welcome to do this, looking at common we think we understand why. Sweden do ...
Ralph Dahlgren
13:44 Case #591: Symphatectomy for flushing and hyperhidrosis
Finnish National DRG-Centre
Just one case with code ADA20 in Finland in 2016 (main dx R610), grouped to DRG 7 (Per...
Kristiina Kahur
11:41 Case #592: Error correction of NordDRG SWE 2018
2018-02-28 Ralph Dahlgren
Sorry for the inconvinience everyone but her comes corrections of the earlier corrections....
Ralph Dahlgren

2018-02-27

21:34 Case #593 (Rejected): New groups for audiology
*Problem*
This case concerns the grouping of activities related to audiology. Currently the outpatient cases of audi...
Kristiina Kahur
15:41 Case #568: Division of DRG 359O 'Uterine and adnexal procedures for non-malignancy, short therapy...
2018-02-27 Martti Virtanen
The proposed change is well described and economically analyzed.
The proposed change ...
Martti Virtanen
13:19 Case #567: MDC-specific DRG-groups for nurse visits
2018-02-27 Martti Virtanen
This proposal has a few things that may need to be considered and 2 obvious errors.
1...
Martti Virtanen

2018-02-26

17:26 Case #592 (Accepted): Error correction of NordDRG SWE 2018
2018-02-26 Ralph Dahlgren
This is very simply a case concerning the Swedish definitiontables for 2018 that we during...
Ralph Dahlgren
16:31 Case #565: Change DGCAT för ICD-codes G94- and some G93-codes
2018-02-26 Martti Virtanen
The proposal is harmonizes the properties of the proposed codes and as such is straight f...
Martti Virtanen
15:20 Case #564: Lymph node procedures in malignant melanomas
2018-02-26 Martti Virtanen
It is obvious that the procedures should have the property 09S07 for skin diseases.
Whe...
Martti Virtanen
14:33 Case #563: New outpatient DRG for catheter ablation
2012-02-26 Martti Virtanen
The proposed change is supported by cost data from both Finland and Sweden. It would be i...
Martti Virtanen
13:54 Case #561: Postoperative control of malignant melanoma
2018-02-26 Martti Virtanen
The properties of type **X99 are automatically created codes that are given to all dx's i...
Martti Virtanen
12:38 Case #560: The procedure NAM29 moved from DRG C56 (187)
2018-02-26 Martti Virtanen
This is an obvious error that msut be correted as proposed. The code NASM29 exist in all ...
Martti Virtanen
12:35 Case #558: Splitting of DRG's for 'Shoulder, elbow or forearm proc, exc major joint proc' (224 a...
2018-02-26 Martti Virtanen
Sorry, for several updates. Had some technical difficulties to get the table presented co...
Martti Virtanen
12:10 Case #558: Splitting of DRG's for 'Shoulder, elbow or forearm proc, exc major joint proc' (224 a...
2018-02-26 Martti Virtanen
This proposal has several problems.
*1) The basic idea is to split the DRG's at issue f...
Martti Virtanen

2018-02-23

20:57 Case #591 (Accepted): Symphatectomy for flushing and hyperhidrosis
The procedure ADA20 thoracic sympathectomy are in both DRG 8 and DRG 461. DRG 461 contain many different types of pro... Hanne Osnes-Ringen
20:43 Case #590 (Accepted): Prefabricated orthosis and the handmade orthosis, DRG 808Y and 908O
The prefabricated orthosis and the handmade orthosis sort to different DRGs. The prefabricated orthosis (NDX31) sort ... Hanne Osnes-Ringen
11:01 Case #516: Rearranging the cases in DRG 038O Primary iris procedures, short therapy and 042O Intr...
Kristiina Kahur 23-2-2018
Thank Mats. And sorry, I overlooked it.
Kristiina Kahur

2018-02-22

18:47 Case #516: Rearranging the cases in DRG 038O Primary iris procedures, short therapy and 042O Intr...
*Mats Fernström, NPK Sweden 2018-02-22*
As I answered to Hanne 2017-12-20; 02S06 is needed for the grouping of inpat...
Mats Fernström
17:52 Case #589: Rules to determine the side of the lens procedure
*Mats Fernström, NPK Sweden 2018-02-22*
There is a similar problem with DRG F25O/162P ’Inguinal and femoral hernia p...
Mats Fernström
13:22 Case #563: New outpatient DRG for catheter ablation
_Veronika Stemme, NPK Sweden_
We send new Technical Changes for this case. We have changed the ORD for DRG E17O ’Per...
Veronika Stemme
12:21 Case #577: Catheter-based valve implantation
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden, 2018-02-22* (NPK ID C736)
There is no Swedish procedure code mapped to FKK72A, but FJK...
Mats Fernström
10:32 Case #576: Merge of DRG 292 and DRG 293
*Mats Fernström, NPK, Sweden 2018-02-22* (NPK ID C735)
DRG 292 corresponds to the Swedish DRG L39E ’Andra operatione...
Mats Fernström

2018-02-21

21:24 Case #589 (Rejected): Rules to determine the side of the lens procedure
*Problem*
The case concerns the rules of DRG 039O Lens procedure, one-sided, short therapy and 039P Lens procedure, ...
Kristiina Kahur
14:38 Case #540: Procedures for ingrown nails
2018-02-21 Martti Virtanen
The problems that we have had with this case are due to an error that we have made earlie...
Martti Virtanen
13:21 Case #516: Rearranging the cases in DRG 038O Primary iris procedures, short therapy and 042O Intr...
Kristiina Kahur wrote:
> Finnish National DRG-Centre 21-2-2018
>
> in 2016, code CHSE05/CHE05 has been used only ...
Kristiina Kahur
12:13 Case #516: Rearranging the cases in DRG 038O Primary iris procedures, short therapy and 042O Intr...
Finnish National DRG-Centre 21-2-2018
in 2016, code CHSE05/CHE05 has been used only once, code CHSE20/CHE20 has no...
Kristiina Kahur
09:51 Case #535: Central Venous catheters
2018-02-21 Martti Virtanen
This case is open for further discussion. Since there is no proposal for techincal change...
Martti Virtanen

2018-02-20

15:41 Case #533: Problems with "missing values" in the NordDRG system
2018-02-20 Martti Virtanen
To remind everybody that the problem is not solved.
Mats's point is also valid, so a so...
Martti Virtanen
14:49 Case #516: Rearranging the cases in DRG 038O Primary iris procedures, short therapy and 042O Intr...
2018-02-20 Martti Virtanen
The proposal for additional change (Question 2) needs to be discussed in Reykjavik.
T...
Martti Virtanen
14:13 Case #502: DRG 316 Kidney failure – splitting into two groups– with and without cc and dialysis
2018-02-20 Martti Virtanen
If threre is no further interest to this case, it shall be closed at next Expert group me...
Martti Virtanen
14:03 Case #462: Peripheral nerve blockades on fingers and toes should not have 00X10
2018-02-20 Martti Virtanen
Sorry for the W/Z. I corrected it in the original comments.
Martti Virtanen
13:54 Case #434: Candida infections as complicating dx
2018-02-20 Martti Virtanen
This case has to be solved at the Expert group meeting in Reykjavik.
Clinically and eco...
Martti Virtanen
 

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