Activity

From 2019-02-24 to 2019-03-25

2019-03-25

14:26 Case #621 (Accepted): Correction of procedure property of code WD325 Demanding therapy of methast...
2018-03-11 Expert group
The proposal was accepted.
Martti Virtanen
14:24 Case #620 (Accepted): Healthy person following sick
Martti Virtanen
14:24 Case #620: Healthy person following sick
2018-03-11 Expert group
The proposal was accepted as proposed by Swe.
Martti Virtanen
14:16 Case #619 (Accepted): SWE DRG C76O and C37O both concerning sleeping disorder/ investigation
2019-03-11 Expert group
The proposal was accepted.
Martti Virtanen
14:11 Case #618 (Accepted): Splitting DRG 243 Medical back problems based on CC/non-CC
2019-03-11 Expert group
The case was accepted for Finland.
The changes is done by adding /Fin tho nat_ver to rul...
Martti Virtanen
14:07 Case #617 (Accepted): Splitting DRG 020 Nervous system infection except viral meningitis based on...
Martti Virtanen
14:07 Case #617: Splitting DRG 020 Nervous system infection except viral meningitis based on CC/non-CC
2019-03-11 Expert group.
The proposal was accepted.
Martti Virtanen
14:02 Case #616 (Accepted): Discharge information (transfer) not available anymore, change of the group...
2019-03-11 Expert group
A finnish problem. The effects may need further consideration by Finland. At this point the ...
Martti Virtanen
13:59 Case #615 (Accepted): Adding PROCPR 02S24 to codes CKD92/CKSD92, CKD93/CKSD93, CKD94/CKSD94, CKD9...
Martti Virtanen
13:59 Case #615: Adding PROCPR 02S24 to codes CKD92/CKSD92, CKD93/CKSD93, CKD94/CKSD94, CKD95/CKSD95
2018-03-11 Expert group
The proposal was accepted.
Martti Virtanen
13:57 Case #613 (Accepted): Interventions with 09S07 'Other skin, subcutaneous tissue or breast procedu...
Martti Virtanen
13:51 Case #613: Interventions with 09S07 'Other skin, subcutaneous tissue or breast procedure' without...
2019-03-11 Expert group
The principle was accepted. If in futre this kind of problems appear, this principle will be...
Martti Virtanen
13:55 Case #612 (Accepted): Properties of procedure codes AEA24/AESA24 and AEA27/AESA27 revisited
Martti Virtanen
13:46 Case #612: Properties of procedure codes AEA24/AESA24 and AEA27/AESA27 revisited
2019-03-11 Expert group
The proposal was accepted.
Martti Virtanen
13:54 Case #611 (Accepted): Physiotherapy with massage
Martti Virtanen
13:44 Case #611: Physiotherapy with massage
2018-03-11 Expert group
The proposal was accepted and done accordign to suggestion already for 2019 version.
Martti Virtanen
13:54 Case #610 (Accepted): Subcodes of D758 ‘Other specified diseases of blood and blood-forming organ...
Martti Virtanen
13:41 Case #610: Subcodes of D758 ‘Other specified diseases of blood and blood-forming organs’
2019-03-11 Expert group
The proposal was accepted, it already implemented.
Martti Virtanen
13:53 Case #614 (Accepted): Adding the PROCPR 30D72 to code HAX014/HA3RT Breast lesion destruction with...
Martti Virtanen
13:52 Case #614: Adding the PROCPR 30D72 to code HAX014/HA3RT Breast lesion destruction with radiofrequ...
2019-03-11 Expert group
The case was accpeted
Martti Virtanen
13:40 Case #607 (Accepted): Removing complication exclusion rules from common codes affects all version...
Martti Virtanen
13:38 Case #607: Removing complication exclusion rules from common codes affects all versions (ex. E108...
2018-03-11 Expert group
Accpeted, already done.
Martti Virtanen
13:39 Case #609 (Accepted): Cutaneous intervention with relation to deep infection – one impossible rule
2019-03-11 Expert group
The prosal was accepted.
Martti Virtanen
13:28 Case #608 (Accepted): Codes with identical content must have same properties
2019-03-11 Expert group
The principle was accepted but the special case of K2380*B3780 has be dealt with separately ...
Martti Virtanen
13:25 Case #606 (Accepted): Dagger-asterisk pair and specific national subcode (example K2380*B3780)
2019-03-11 Expert group
Sweden cannot deny the use of the code pair K3280*B3780.
Therefore we add a new code to IC...
Martti Virtanen
13:16 Case #605 (Accepted): Facial nerve paralysis with upper motor neuron disease (G83.6)
2018-03-11 Expert group
The proposal was accepted.
Martti Virtanen
13:13 Case #602 (Accepted): Deletion of DRG Z92N 'Saknad eller negativ vårdtid'
2019-03-11 Expert group
The proposal was accepted.
Martti Virtanen
13:11 Case #601 (Accepted): Clarification of a new rules for DRGlogic
2018-03-19 Expert group
The problem was discuessed. No changes are needed.
Martti Virtanen
13:09 Case #600 (Accepted): Activation of 06I10 'Complicated or bleeding gastric or bowel ulcer'
2018-03-11 Expert group
The proposal was accepted.
Martti Virtanen
13:08 Case #599 (Accepted): Rules with diagnosis properties wher all diagnosis with property belong to ...
2019-03-11 Expert group
Expert group accepted that the currently impossible rules will be inactivated in NDMS. In th...
Martti Virtanen
13:03 Case #595 (Accepted): Swedish logic changes to outpatient DRG's
2019-03-11 Expert group
The national organisations should check the names of the DRG's and remove any reference to ...
Martti Virtanen
12:59 Case #594 (Accepted): Updates concerning Swedish NordDRG 2019 PR version
2019-03-11 Expert group
Expert group accepted that DF032 is linked to FXF024 that will currently not have any proper...
Martti Virtanen
12:47 Case #587 (Accepted): Split of DRG A20N (570) ‘Insertion or replacement of nervous system central...
2019-03-11 Expert group
Expert group accepted the last addition (for Swe).
Martti Virtanen
12:41 Case #572 (Accepted): Revision the grouping rules of DRG 041Q
2019-03-11 Expert group
The proposed changes were accepted.
Martti Virtanen
12:39 Case #568 (Accepted): Division of DRG 359O 'Uterine and adnexal procedures for non-malignancy, sh...
2019-03-11 Expert group
The case was open to remind countries of need form correction of names of the DRG's.
It is...
Martti Virtanen
12:36 Case #565 (Accepted): Change DGCAT för ICD-codes G94- and some G93-codes
Martti Virtanen
12:36 Case #565: Change DGCAT för ICD-codes G94- and some G93-codes
2019-03-11 Expert group
Expert group noted the last corrections and accepted them.
In the technical changes _Te...
Martti Virtanen
12:07 Case #502 (Accepted): DRG 316 Kidney failure – splitting into two groups– with and without cc and...
Martti Virtanen
12:06 Case #434 (Accepted): Candida infections as complicating dx
2019-03-11 Expert group
Even the additions were accepted for all countries (see Technical changes case #434-2.xlsx
Martti Virtanen

2019-03-21

16:11 Case #608: Codes with identical content must have same properties
*Mats Fernström, NPK Sweden 2019-03-21* (Swe ID C785)
We have now compared all subcodes ending with W with the corre...
Mats Fernström

2019-03-18

14:29 Case #620: Healthy person following sick
*Mats Fernström, NPK Sweden, 2019-03-18* (NPK ID C759)
At the meeting last week I objected to Martti’s positioning o...
Mats Fernström
13:55 Task #638: NordDRG 2019 combined definition tables.
*Mats Fernström, NPK Sweden, 2019-03-18*
What are the right headlines in the table Drglogic? Look at column A and B....
Mats Fernström
13:37 Case #622: Access procedures for dialysis
*Mats Fernström, NPK Sweden, 2019-03-18* (NPK ID C772)
At the meeting last week I answered to Martti’s questions. He...
Mats Fernström
11:20 Case #616: Discharge information (transfer) not available anymore, change of the grouping rules o...
Finnish National DRG-Centre 2019-3-18
This as a follow-up after the expertnetwork meeting.
Referring to the re...
Kristiina Kahur

2019-03-12

10:31 Case #640: Tracheostomy on newborns
2019-03-11 Expert group (Stockholm)
Expert group decided that the interventions for tracheotsomy
GBSB00 Tracheost...
Martti Virtanen

2019-03-10

06:14 Case #640: Tracheostomy on newborns
2019-03-10 Ralph Dahlgren
When grouping the Norwegian suggested diagnosis and procedure codes with the Swedish NordD...
Ralph Dahlgren

2019-03-08

17:43 Case #634: Removal of urethal sphincter prothesis
2019-03-08 Ralph Dahlgren
The procedure code KDK40 Avlägsnande av artificiell sfinkter (KDK40 Removal of urethal sph...
Ralph Dahlgren
15:33 Case #635: Injection into the vocal cord
We do not have the total costs for these patients this year, we might have more costs on this next year. If Sweden ar... Hanne Osnes-Ringen
15:08 Case #640: Tracheostomy on newborns
Finnish National DRG-Centre 2019-3-8
There is no such newborns’ cases with tracheostomy (GBB00) and procedure with...
Kristiina Kahur
12:10 Case #640: Tracheostomy on newborns
2019-03-08 NCC (MV)
There is no proposed change.
The neontal groupin is placed separately before the outpatient a...
Martti Virtanen
12:17 Case #641: Missing plus signs in ICD field in Drglogic
2019-03-08 NCC (MV)
All these rules obviously must have ICD-code because there is either MDC, DGCAT or PDGPROP that...
Martti Virtanen
11:39 Case #637: Generell Anestesia affects the grouping incorrect
2019-03-08 NCC (MV)
The proposal affects only NordDRG Swe because the moved rules are specific to Swe.
The techni...
Martti Virtanen
10:51 Case #636: Removal and change of catheter for dialysis
2019-03-18 NCC(MV)
This is a fairly straigth forward case. If Iceland does not disagree we keep the mappings and add...
Martti Virtanen

2019-03-07

17:10 Case #637: Generell Anestesia affects the grouping incorrect
Finnish National DRG-Centre 2019-3-7
Currently, in Finnish version DRG 027 _Serious traumatic brain injury_ is not...
Kristiina Kahur
14:07 Case #639: NordDRG 2019 Swe defintion tables
2019-03-07 Ralph Dahlgren
Since we have not Heard anything from Martti we decided to remove the faulting Excell-file...
Ralph Dahlgren
13:49 Case #635: Injection into the vocal cord
2019-03-07 NCC (MV)
The national version are quite different in this area (see technical changes). DRG 055P/C16O is...
Martti Virtanen
13:07 Case #634: Removal of urethal sphincter prothesis
2019-03-07 NCC (MV)
Based on the Finish cost per patient data, it seems possible to remove the property 11S11 from ...
Martti Virtanen
12:43 Case #633: Liposuction
2019-03-07 NCC (MV)
This case has a history. See case #527.
Liposuction is advertised to be be done with local ana...
Martti Virtanen
11:51 Case #632: TFG (Tjenesteforløpsgruppe)
2019-03-07 NCC (MV)
I support the discussion, see also my comment to case #631.
Martti Virtanen
11:43 Case #631: STG (Særtjenestegrupper) - specialized health care outside hospitals
2019-03-07 NCC (MV)
It is obvious that the cost of care arranged by the health care system but delivered outside the...
Martti Virtanen

2019-03-06

15:38 Case #630: Surgery - short therapy
2019-03-06 NCC (MV)
A simple way to solve the proposed grouping is to change the limit of lenth of stay (LOS) of sho...
Martti Virtanen
15:23 Case #629: Emergency care for short stay cases in DRG
2019-03-06 NCC (MV)
This proposal is incomplete.
1) The rules use a property 90X20 that does not exist. It must be...
Martti Virtanen
13:21 Case #628: Acquired hydrocephalus of newborn
2019-03-06 NCC (MV)
P91.7 'Acquired hydrocephalus of newborn' has been added by WHO some years. ago. It is in use i...
Martti Virtanen
12:38 Case #627: T855 groups to DRG 921O
2019-03-06 NCC (MV)
This proposal has two parts that are only loosely connected.
*First* the question what is t...
Martti Virtanen

2019-03-05

18:04 Case #594: Updates concerning Swedish NordDRG 2019 PR version
*Mats Fernström, NPK Sweden 2019-03-05* (Swe ID C721)
FXF000 used to have PROCPR 40V39 but I missed that it has been...
Mats Fernström
15:12 Case #625 (Rejected): Property COMPL 19C02 should be removed from F729 and F739
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
Case is withdrawn. May be reactivated next year.
Martti Virtanen
14:59 Case #624: MDC 12 and 13
2019-03-05 NCC (MV)
There is still the problem that because of this structure we need to know the gender of patients...
Martti Virtanen
14:41 Case #623: Fiberoendoscopic intubation and Tracheoscopy
2019-03-05 NCC (MV)
This proposal seems to be based on clear economical evidence. If the economic data is valid for...
Martti Virtanen
14:03 Case #622: Access procedures for dialysis
2019-03-05 NCC (MV)
In this case as always in intervention DRG’s a very important issue is the order of the (surgic...
Martti Virtanen
12:26 Case #565 (Re-activated): Change DGCAT för ICD-codes G94- and some G93-codes
*Mats Fernström, NPK Sweden 2019-03-05* (Swe ID C730)
I agree with Ralph that the decision from 2018-03-13 was not c...
Mats Fernström
10:17 Case #641 (Re-activated): Missing plus signs in ICD field in Drglogic
This is an error correction. If there is a value in any of the fields mdc, pdgprop or dgcat1 in the table Drglogic th... Mats Fernström

2019-03-04

14:34 Case #620: Healthy person following sick
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
This proposal aafects only NordDRG Swe and can be performed without any effect on other versions...
Martti Virtanen
13:22 Case #619: SWE DRG C76O and C37O both concerning sleeping disorder/ investigation
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
This proposal affect only NordDRG Swe as illustrated in the technical changes. It includes also...
Martti Virtanen
12:51 Case #615: Adding PROCPR 02S24 to codes CKD92/CKSD92, CKD93/CKSD93, CKD94/CKSD94, CKD95/CKSD95
2019-03-04 NCC(MV)
This proposal affects only NodrDRG Fin and Ice. See Technical changes.
Martti Virtanen
12:23 Case #614: Adding the PROCPR 30D72 to code HAX014/HA3RT Breast lesion destruction with radiofrequ...
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
This seems to affect only NordDRG Fin.
See technical changes.
Martti Virtanen
12:00 Case #601: Clarification of a new rules for DRGlogic
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
Technical changes without changes.
Martti Virtanen
10:59 Case #601: Clarification of a new rules for DRGlogic
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
See also case #603.
The only exception to the rule that MDC and PDPGROP shall not be used it t...
Martti Virtanen
11:16 Case #608: Codes with identical content must have same properties
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
The general principle holds and it is technically impossible to have different properties for to...
Martti Virtanen
11:15 Case #606: Dagger-asterisk pair and specific national subcode (example K2380*B3780)
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
See also case #608
Martti Virtanen
10:58 Case #603 (Rejected): Error correction of PDGPROP and MDC i DRGlogic in SWE DRGlogic
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
See case #601
Martti Virtanen
10:26 Case #533 (Rejected): Problems with "missing values" in the NordDRG system
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
This case is continued under case #602.
This case is closed.
Martti Virtanen
10:16 Case #600: Activation of 06I10 'Complicated or bleeding gastric or bowel ulcer'
2019-03-04 NCC(MV)
Technical changes added.
Martti Virtanen
09:59 Case #599: Rules with diagnosis properties wher all diagnosis with property belong to a CC catego...
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
This matter should be discussed.
The technical delay in grouping is obviously not significant....
Martti Virtanen
09:54 Case #598 (Accepted): Norwegian changes to ICD-10 and procedurecodes for 2019
Martti Virtanen
09:51 Case #595: Swedish logic changes to outpatient DRG's
2019-03-04 NCC (MV)
These changes have been performed in NordDRG 2019 Swe.
The expert group might have an interest...
Martti Virtanen

2019-03-01

16:56 Case #640 (Accepted): Tracheostomy on newborns
Tracheostomy on newborns is fortunately a rare procedure. In most cases a tracheostomy performed on newborns give DRG... Kristin Dahlen
15:07 Case #627: T855 groups to DRG 921O
You are of course right Mats, this will also affect in-patient grouping which is also our intention. This will affect... Anja Fagervold

2019-02-28

10:56 Case #639: NordDRG 2019 Swe defintion tables
2019-02-28 Ralph Dahlgren
As you are Writing in your text Martti there are technical difficulties in the prouduction...
Ralph Dahlgren
10:45 Task #638: NordDRG 2019 combined definition tables.
2019-02-28 Ralph Dadhlgren
Sweden really apreciate the commonversion. It decreases the risk of making misstakes when...
Ralph Dahlgren

2019-02-27

16:46 Case #612: Properties of procedure codes AEA24/AESA24 and AEA27/AESA27 revisited
2019-02-27 Ralph Dahlgren
The technical Changes is for Sweden that is not going to use 11S15 if I understand correct...
Ralph Dahlgren
15:21 Case #612: Properties of procedure codes AEA24/AESA24 and AEA27/AESA27 revisited
2019-02-27 NCC (MV)
The proposal is otherwise OK, but the property 11S15 is used by other versions than Swe and can...
Martti Virtanen
16:27 Case #594: Updates concerning Swedish NordDRG 2019 PR version
2019-02-27 NCC(MV)
This seems to be a small misstake somewhere.
DF031 is linked to FXF022 'Analysis of loop reco...
Martti Virtanen
15:41 Case #592 (Accepted): Error correction of NordDRG SWE 2018
Martti Virtanen
15:40 Case #587: Split of DRG A20N (570) ‘Insertion or replacement of nervous system central stimulatio...
2019-02-27 NCC (MV)
We seem to agree about ther principals but I think that at the expert group meeting we will look...
Martti Virtanen
10:11 Case #569 (Accepted): Correction of the properties ABD32 Implantation of temporary spinal stimula...
2018-03-13 Expert group
The proposal was accepted at the expert group.
The discussion about this and related probl...
Martti Virtanen

2019-02-26

15:24 Case #568 (Further active): Division of DRG 359O 'Uterine and adnexal procedures for non-malignan...
Martti Virtanen
15:21 Case #540 (Accepted): Procedures for ingrown nails
Martti Virtanen
15:17 Case #639 (Active): NordDRG 2019 Swe defintion tables
The Swedish defintion tables in Excel format
We are currently in time pressure so to produce the other national vers...
Martti Virtanen

2019-02-25

18:57 Case #616: Discharge information (transfer) not available anymore, change of the grouping rules o...
Finnish National DRG-Centre 2019-2-25
One option to deal with the transferred cases in DRG 385A is to remove the '...
Kristiina Kahur
15:35 Task #638 (Active): NordDRG 2019 combined definition tables.
The content of the Com-version definition tables is now available in updated format.
The most important change is t...
Martti Virtanen
12:30 Case #632: TFG (Tjenesteforløpsgruppe)
As a lot of us are spending time and effort moving towards value based payment methods, I suggest we try to find time... Malle Avarsoo
11:39 Case #626: Integrating ICPC2 codes into NordDRG system
Finnish National DRG-Centre 2019-2-25
The official/original mapping is provided in Appendix 1.
In column I (icd1...
Kristiina Kahur

2019-02-24

16:16 Case #610: Subcodes of D758 ‘Other specified diseases of blood and blood-forming organs’
2019-02-24 Ralph Dahlgren
Sweden must say thank you again Martti for making comments. This time it turned out that w...
Ralph Dahlgren
13:25 Case #637 (Accepted): Generell Anestesia affects the grouping incorrect
Problem
Patients are grouped into A60A Serious traumatic brain injury, very complicated but if adding ZXH60 General ...
Ralph Dahlgren
 

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