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From 2020-02-17 to 2020-03-17

2020-03-17

14:49 NDMS #695 (Closed): NordDRG 2020PR tables (backup, excel)
This ticket includes the NordDRG 2020PR combined version backup and Excel tables. Kristiina Kahur
13:48 Case #666: Split of DRG 294 Diabetes age > 35 into non-CC, CC and MCC
Estonia would like to get this change for EST version. Our data supports the divison of the group: similar dependanc... Malle Avarsoo
10:21 Case #666 (Further active): Split of DRG 294 Diabetes age > 35 into non-CC, CC and MCC
2020-03-09 Expert group
The proposal was accepted for Fin version. Swe is already using this model. Other countries ...
Martti Virtanen
13:01 NDMS #686: Managing codes' text fields containing a semicolon ( ; ) character in NDMS
Nordic Casemix Centre/Kristiina Kahur 17-3-2020 (Epert group 2020-03-09)
In NDMS the correction was made and in a...
Kristiina Kahur
12:39 Case #658: EST_DRG name correction
The Norwegian names were changed 4 years ago (see case 430). The correct names are hopefully already implemented for ... Kristin Dahlen
09:36 Case #658 (Further active): EST_DRG name correction
2020-03-09 Expert group
The expert group noted the need for change of the names. If there are no further comments th...
Martti Virtanen
11:32 Case #667: Split of DRG 296 Nutritional & misc metabolic disorders, age > 17 w cc into CC and MCC...
Estonia supports this change for EST version.
Figurative data showing the inhomogeneous groups and VI (10,41) for t...
Malle Avarsoo
10:24 Case #667 (Further active): Split of DRG 296 Nutritional & misc metabolic disorders, age > 17 w c...
2020-03-09 Expert group
The proposal was accepted for Fin version. The Swe version is already similar. Other countri...
Martti Virtanen
10:17 Case #665 (Further active): Merge of DRGs 286O Adrenal & pituitary procedures, short therapy and ...
2020-03-09 Expert group
Expert group accepted the proposal for Fin version. Other countries are free to join the cha...
Martti Virtanen
09:44 Case #665: Merge of DRGs 286O Adrenal & pituitary procedures, short therapy and 289O Parathyroid ...
As discussed in March meeting, Estonia has checked the case and come to conclusion, that we support this change in ES... Malle Avarsoo
10:14 Case #664 (Accepted): Inactivation of DRG 299B Biomodifier therapy of inborn error of metabolism....
2020-03-09 Expert group
DRG 229B is inactivated.
The change was accepted for Fin version.
Martti Virtanen
10:13 Case #663 (Accepted): Error correction in Psychiatric open daycare for Sweden in DRGlogic.
2020-03-09 Expert group
The expert group accepted the changes including the last change from Sweden. The change is f...
Martti Virtanen
10:11 Case #669: Change of grouping the hemodialysis cases with main diagnosis from MDC10 from DRG 810O...
Estonia supports the change to EST version. Malle Avarsoo
10:10 Case #660 (Accepted): Error corrections 20191011 for some of the conservatory outpatient visits D...
2020-03-09 Expert group
No further discussion. The case is closed.
Martti Virtanen
10:08 Case #659 (Accepted): Error correction of the Swedish definitionstables
2020-03-09 Expert group
No further dicussion on this case. The case is closed.
Martti Virtanen
09:33 Case #642 (Accepted): Harmonization of Swedish DRGs
2020-03-09 Expert group
No further discussion. The case was closed.
Martti Virtanen
09:31 Case #641 (Rejected): Missing plus signs in ICD field in Drglogic
Martti Virtanen
09:30 Case #641: Missing plus signs in ICD field in Drglogic
2020-03-09 Expert group
No further discussion. The case is closed.
Martti Virtanen
09:29 Case #636 (Accepted): Removal and change of catheter for dialysis
2020-03-09 Expert group
No further dicussion. The case is closed.
Martti Virtanen
09:17 Case #635 (Rejected): Injection into the vocal cord
2020-03-17 Martti Virtanen
Since Norway that initiated the case, is no more supporting it, the case will be closed.
Martti Virtanen

2020-03-12

12:54 Case #674: Hypertherm perfusion
_Veronika Stemme, DRG-team Sweden_
We have reconsidered the technical changes for this case after Marttis suggestion...
Veronika Stemme

2020-03-11

12:49 Case #677: Changing the features of diagnosis code U07.1
2020-03-09
This case was discused at the Expert group.
However, there is now new information that will be discussed...
Martti Virtanen
12:15 Case #630 (Accepted): Surgery - short therapy
2020-03-09 Expert group
Expert group was informed about the case.
We need to line the Norwegian and Nordic Nor ver...
Martti Virtanen
12:12 Case #629 (Accepted): Emergency care for short stay cases in DRG
2020-03-09 Expert group
The case was accepted for Norway.
Currently the solution that makes the rules work for N...
Martti Virtanen
11:49 Case #668 (Accepted): Separating short therapy diabetes cases from DRG 910O
2020-03-09 Expert group
The proposed change was accepted for Finland (and for Norway). The changes will to extent po...
Martti Virtanen
11:21 Case #627: T855 groups to DRG 921O
2020-03-09 Expert group
Sweden has not been able to perform econonocial analysis of the case. For Norway the case is...
Martti Virtanen
11:18 Case #626 (Rejected): Integrating ICPC2 codes into NordDRG system
2020-03-09 Expert group
The expert group was informed of the possibility to add ICPC-2 codes, that have a preferred ...
Martti Virtanen
11:11 Case #620 (Accepted): Healthy person following sick
2020-03-09 Expert group
The expert group was informed about the case.
The case is now closed.
Martti Virtanen
11:09 Case #616 (Accepted): Discharge information (transfer) not available anymore, change of the group...
2020-03-09 Expert group
The expert group was informed about the situation.
The case is now closed.
Martti Virtanen
11:08 Case #613 (Accepted): Interventions with 09S07 'Other skin, subcutaneous tissue or breast procedu...
Martti Virtanen
11:07 Case #613: Interventions with 09S07 'Other skin, subcutaneous tissue or breast procedure' without...
2020-03-09 Expert group
The expert group agreed with the proposed change.
For Norway the included codes include al...
Martti Virtanen
08:23 Case #635: Injection into the vocal cord
Finnish National DRG-Centre/Kristiina Kahur 11-3-2020
We checked the data and came to conclusion that Finnish cost...
Kristiina Kahur

2020-03-09

18:52 NDMS #688: Delivery of stand-alone NDMS package and NDMS Manual
Nordic Casemix Centre/Kristiina Kahur, 9-3-2020
As discussed in expertgroup meeting, every organisation which has ...
Kristiina Kahur
17:44 NDMS #686: Managing codes' text fields containing a semicolon ( ; ) character in NDMS
*Mats Fernström, the National Board of Health and Welfare, Sweden 2020-03-09*
There was a misunderstanding in my co...
Mats Fernström
15:12 Case #629: Emergency care for short stay cases in DRG
With reference to the questions in the expert group meeting, please find the updated DRG-tables, showing both the dur... Kristin Dahlen

2020-03-08

21:00 Case #683: Breast lift/ mastopexy
2020-03-08 Ralph Dahlgren
First I have a question, I do not understand, probably due to my poor English, and that is...
Ralph Dahlgren
17:21 Case #693: Procedures to treat lymphedema.
2020-03-08 Ralph Dahlgren
Martti are correct, the code Q8200 'Hereditary lymphoedema' should also be incuded as ment...
Ralph Dahlgren
17:06 Development initiative #549: Psychiatry
2020-03-08 Ralph Dahlgren
Details can also be seen in case #582.
Ralph Dahlgren
17:05 Development initiative #549: Psychiatry
2020-03-08 Ralph Dahlgren
Sweden has developed DRGs for Psychiatric out- and in-patients for the specialized care. I...
Ralph Dahlgren

2020-03-07

08:58 Task #32 (Closed): Delivery of updated list of DRG changes and Technical changes for Common Nordi...
Martti Virtanen
08:57 Task #30 (Closed): NCSP+ and ICD10+ update by Nordic Centre
Martti Virtanen

2020-03-06

20:35 Case #679: Adding OR 2 to procedure codes related to injection into joint
2020-03-06 RD
Sweden can agree to give the involved Swedish code TNF11 Injektion av diagnostisk eller terapeutisk su...
Ralph Dahlgren
12:39 Case #679: Adding OR 2 to procedure codes related to injection into joint
We support this change, but for the Norwegian codes we only want to add OR=2 to the procedurecode NFX11 'Injeksjon av... Anja Fagervold
16:23 Case #668: Separating short therapy diabetes cases from DRG 910O
In the Norwegian version we have already made a split for DRG 910O. Instead of making a new DRG 295O, we simply made ... Kristin Dahlen
15:58 Case #685: OR 1 is changed to OR 2 for 44 procedurecodes named "Injection of…."
2020-03-06 Ralph Dahlgren
Sweden do not agree that this case is an ‘Error Correction’, it is rather a ‘minor’ case.
...
Ralph Dahlgren
14:45 Case #685: OR 1 is changed to OR 2 for 44 procedurecodes named "Injection of…."
Finnish National DRG-Centre/Kristiina Kahur 6-3-2020
Most of the 44 codes are not used in Finnish version. Impact ...
Kristiina Kahur
14:43 Case #684: NCL19 Suture or reconstruction of muscle in elbow or forearm
Finnish National DRG-Centre/Kristiina Kahur 6-3-2020
No code respective national code (NCSL19) in Finnish version....
Kristiina Kahur
10:24 Case #684: NCL19 Suture or reconstruction of muscle in elbow or forearm
_Veronika Stemme, DRG-team Sweden_
Sweden support this suggestion.
Veronika Stemme
14:33 Case #666: Split of DRG 294 Diabetes age > 35 into non-CC, CC and MCC
Analyses from Norway show that the length of stay for cases with complicated diagnosis are longer than the group that... Kristin Dahlen
14:03 Case #630: Surgery - short therapy
To Martti's comment on the length of stay (20190306). Before doing this we did discuss whether we should do a major c... Kristin Dahlen
13:39 Case #629: Emergency care for short stay cases in DRG
This solution was implemented in the Norwegian DRG-logic from 2018, and the case was ment mostly for information.
...
Kristin Dahlen
13:25 Case #635: Injection into the vocal cord
DQE10 Injection in the vocal cord is a minor procedure and less expensive than the other procedures in DRG55O, we the... Hanne Osnes-Ringen
12:14 Case #660: Error corrections 20191011 for some of the conservatory outpatient visits DRG that are...
Nordic Casemix Centre/Kristiina Kahur 6-3-2020
The suggested changes have been introduced into NDMS and the case c...
Kristiina Kahur
12:12 Case #659: Error correction of the Swedish definitionstables
Nordic Casemix Centre/Kristiina Kahur 6-3-2020
The suggested changes have been introduced into NDMS and the case c...
Kristiina Kahur
12:04 Case #642: Harmonization of Swedish DRGs
Nordic Casemix Centre/Kristiina Kahur 6-3-2020
The suggested changes have been introduced into NDMS and the case c...
Kristiina Kahur
09:46 Case #627: T855 groups to DRG 921O
Finnish National DRG-Centre/Kristiina Kahur 6-3-2020
Finland cannot provide reliable economical analysis because t...
Kristiina Kahur

2020-03-05

21:22 Case #675: DRG grouping of procedure code EGC30 Implant of jaw joint prothesis
2020-03-05 Ralph Dahlgren:
In the enclosed word dokument is clinical information why Sweden mostly use patient custo...
Ralph Dahlgren
16:21 Case #677: Changing the features of diagnosis code U07.1
2020-03-05 Ralph Dahlgren
Sweden has thought about this issue, time has made certain things clearer and some others ...
Ralph Dahlgren
15:58 Questions and answers #694 (Active): ICD-11 and WHO initiative in Estonia
WHO has approached Estonian Social Ministery and done a lot of promo for implementing ICD-11 by having some initial w... Malle Avarsoo
15:39 Case #613: Interventions with 09S07 'Other skin, subcutaneous tissue or breast procedure' without...
When looking into this case we understand that the combination 09S07 and OR 2 should not occur. In the Norwegian drgl... Anja Fagervold
12:50 Case #674: Hypertherm perfusion
_Veronika Stemme, DRG-team Sweden_
Answers to Marttis questions so far, looking forward to more discussion during th...
Veronika Stemme

2020-03-04

17:40 Case #693: Procedures to treat lymphedema.
2020-03-03 Martti Virtanen
The proposal is clinically reasonable and seem to improve resource omogenity of the group...
Martti Virtanen
17:13 Case #692: Genetic counseling
2020-03-03 Martti Virtanen
The DRG 913O and the proeperty 13X05 are created for Nor (and used also by Ice). The chan...
Martti Virtanen
17:02 Case #687: In vitro fertilization
2020-03-03 Martti Virtanen
The DRG 359O is not included in the NDMS. It seems to be one of the changes performed onl...
Martti Virtanen
16:42 Case #683: Breast lift/ mastopexy
2020-03-03 Martti Virtanen
The proposed change is clinically reasonable.
Martti Virtanen
16:16 Case #682: Chronic uveitis treated with specific biological drug treatment should group to 808H i...
2020-03-03 Martti Virtanen
The DRG 808(N)H is only used by Norway, so the change will not affect other versions.
Th...
Martti Virtanen
16:04 Case #676: Removal of COMPL 19C02 ‘Psychosis’ from diagnosis without psychosis
Martti Virtanen 2020-03-03
This list is interited from HCFA rules. The idea must be that certain conditions are seve...
Martti Virtanen
15:56 Case #675: DRG grouping of procedure code EGC30 Implant of jaw joint prothesis
2020-03-03 Martti Virtanen
The Finnish DRG assignment is based on the specific tooth and mouth problem grouping that...
Martti Virtanen
15:46 Case #674: Hypertherm perfusion
2020-03-03 Martti Virtanen
This case provokes a few questions that should be discussed together.
1) The codes wi...
Martti Virtanen
14:52 Case #673: Sepsis from 2020
2020-03-04 Martti Virtanen
The proposal affects all versions and the countries have to agree on the changes. Otherwi...
Martti Virtanen
12:50 Case #672: C671 Deceased during daycare visit
2020-03-04 Martti Virtanen
The basic idea of this proposal is interesting and something that has bothered at least m...
Martti Virtanen
08:12 Case #663: Error correction in Psychiatric open daycare for Sweden in DRGlogic.
2020-03-04 Ralph Dahlgren
Thank you Martti for doing this update. Going through the updates again I realised that we...
Ralph Dahlgren

2020-03-03

13:15 Case #669: Change of grouping the hemodialysis cases with main diagnosis from MDC10 from DRG 810O...
2020-03-03 Ralph Dahlgren
This case is in Sweden connected to #689 C757 Merging the Swedish outpatient DRGs M32P & M...
Ralph Dahlgren
11:18 Case #669: Change of grouping the hemodialysis cases with main diagnosis from MDC10 from DRG 810O...
2020-03-03 Martti Virtanen
Is the technical changes what Mats meant?
Whic counries will join to the change?
Martti Virtanen
11:01 Case #663: Error correction in Psychiatric open daycare for Sweden in DRGlogic.
2020-03-03 Martti Virtanen
This is already imported to the new NDMS.
I reordered the rules in technical changes to...
Martti Virtanen
10:43 NDMS #662: CC category coding and CC exclusions in NordDRG
2020-03-03 Martti Virtanen
This is very much a technical change to the new NDMS, so I switch it to NDMS discussion
Martti Virtanen
10:31 Task #651 (Closed): Norwegian changes to ICD-10 and procedurecodes for 2020
Martti Virtanen
10:30 Task #649 (Closed): Uppdates of the Swedish definitiontables for PL-version 2020
Martti Virtanen
10:29 Task #643 (Closed): Delivery of NordDRG 2020PL0 definition tables ICE
Martti Virtanen
10:11 Case #620: Healthy person following sick
2020-03-03 Martti Virtanen
This is OK, it is already done in the new NDMS.
Martti Virtanen

2020-02-28

22:42 Case #693 (Accepted): Procedures to treat lymphedema.
2020-02-28 R Dahlgren
*Problem*
The health care providers have contacted the Swedish DRG-team concerning a special ...
Ralph Dahlgren
13:17 Case #692 (Accepted): Genetic counseling
Problem
Z315 (ICD10) Consultations for genetic guidance groups different for women and men when it comes to outpati...
Hanne Osnes-Ringen

2020-02-26

15:01 Case #691: MDC 98
Nordic Casemix Centre/Kristiina Kahur, 26-2-2020
During the certification process of national 2020 groupers this d...
Kristiina Kahur
14:56 Case #691: MDC 98
Thanks Kristiina,
Good that the Nordic and SoS grouper do the same. Prodacapos doesn't, they group to:W29E Other fac...
Liselotte Säll
14:38 Case #691: MDC 98
Nordic Casemix Centre/Kristiina Kahur, 26-2-2020
The Nordic DRG Grouper (latest version 10022020) is taking into a...
Kristiina Kahur
12:42 Case #691 (Accepted): MDC 98
Sweden suggests a change in the NordDRG grouper regarding MDC 98 rule.
We have made a comparison of the test cases...
Liselotte Säll
14:48 NDMS #686: Managing codes' text fields containing a semicolon ( ; ) character in NDMS
*Mats Fernström, the National Board of Health and Welfare, Sweden 2020-02-26*
We reject this proposal. If all the c...
Mats Fernström

2020-02-25

15:03 NDMS #690 (Further active): Use of ATC codes in NordDRG and NDMS
*The goal*
To allow continuous maintanance of ATC codes in NDMS and to allow their use in DRG assignment.
*Backg...
Martti Virtanen

2020-02-24

07:53 Case #683: Breast lift/ mastopexy
Finnish National DRG-Centre/Kristiina Kahur 24-2-2020
109 cases with HAD40 (HASD40 ncsp+ code) in 2018 Finnish dat...
Kristiina Kahur
07:23 Case #675: DRG grouping of procedure code EGC30 Implant of jaw joint prothesis
Finnish National DRG-Centre/Kristiina Kahur 24-2-2020
In Finland, code EGC30 (EGSC30 ncsp+ code) has (in 2018) 28 ...
Kristiina Kahur
07:13 Case #674: Hypertherm perfusion
Finnish National DRG-Centre/Kristiina Kahur 24-2-2020
Respective codes in Finnish version:
PXB00 -> PXA00 (FIN co...
Kristiina Kahur
07:09 Case #673: Sepsis from 2020
Finnish National DRG-Centre/Kristiina Kahur 24-2-2020
Finland does not have specific sepsis coding guidelines. Oth...
Kristiina Kahur
07:06 Case #669: Change of grouping the hemodialysis cases with main diagnosis from MDC10 from DRG 810O...
Finnish National DRG-Centre/Kristiina Kahur 24-2-2020
Finland supports this modification.
Kristiina Kahur

2020-02-19

18:28 Case #595: Swedish logic changes to outpatient DRG's
Finnish DRG names have been changed concerning groups MCD12 and MDC13. The changes will be made to the Finnish versio... Elina Hermiö
10:21 Case #689 (Accepted): Merging the Swedish outpatient DRGs M32P & M32Q for dialysis
*Mats Fernström, the National Board of Health and Welfare, Sweden*, 2020-02-19. Swe ID C757.
This case applies only ...
Mats Fernström

2020-02-18

15:33 NDMS #688 (Active): Delivery of stand-alone NDMS package and NDMS Manual
This it to inform the NordDRG users that the stand-alone NDMS (NordDRG Maintenance System) package (incl the installa... Kristiina Kahur
15:28 Case #613: Interventions with 09S07 'Other skin, subcutaneous tissue or breast procedure' without...
2020-02-18 Martti Virtanen
The NDMS has currently 8 codes with PROCPR=09S07 and OR=2. One of the codes is inactivate...
Martti Virtanen
11:59 Case #687 (Active): In vitro fertilization
I Norway we have two DRGs for in vitro fertilization, DRG 359Q (new last year, after a split in DRG 359O) and DRG 813... Hanne Osnes-Ringen

2020-02-17

14:52 NDMS #686 (Closed): Managing codes' text fields containing a semicolon ( ; ) character in NDMS
There are many rows in the diagnosis and procedure tables where a text field contains a semicolon ( ; ) character, e.... Kristiina Kahur
 

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